CONLEY:Time for common sense e cigarette regulations- Iggy Azalea

Forty-one states have adopted laws banning the sale of e cigarettes to minors and Michigan’s legislature has passed a ban that is awaiting the governor’s signature. That leaves Massachusetts and seven other states that have not yet taken the common sense step of banning sales to minors.

In some states, the reason may come as a surprise. They cannot bring themselves to craft a clean bill that bans sales to minors and does nothing more.
Instead, anti-e-cigarette lawmakers have larded their bills with extra language designed to broadly – and unwisely – crack down on e-cigarettes by confusing them with harmful tobacco products.

Massachusetts, Oregon and New Mexico introduced bans on the sale of e-cigarettes to minors this year, but they did not become law. Why? Because anti-tobacco legislators refused to pass the bills unless they also included additional taxes or bans on e-cigarette use in specified locations.

For instance, Massachusetts’ ban on sales to minors would have also defined e-cigarettes as tobacco products, which they aren’t, and taken away the ability of business owners to permit e cigarette use in their establishments, which is nonsensical. This sort of thinking not only prevents something everyone wants – keeping e-cigarettes out of the hands of minors – it falsely paints e-cigarettes as having a risk profile similar to tobacco products.

In fact, e-cigarettes are tobacco-free. They contain none of the tar of combustible cigarettes, do not generate harmful secondhand smoke, and the vapor does not soil hair and clothes with noxious odors. More important, emerging research is showing that e-cigarettes may be the most effective method of helping longtime smokers break the habit.

A 2014 study in England published in the medical journal Addiction surveyed 6,000 smokers who tried to quit in the prior year. The largest share of respondents who were able to quit – 20 percent – had done so using e-cigarettes, beating those who quit without help (15 percent) and those who used nicotine-replacement therapy such as gum or a patch (10 percent).

 

Overall, e-cigarettes contribute directly to the Food and Drug Administration’s goal of ending smoking-related diseases and deaths.

To see an example of how state legislatures get it right on e-cigarettes, look to two neighbors of Massachusetts.

Earlier this year, Connecticut and Rhode Island enacted new laws that banned e-cigarette sales to minors, but accurately defined the products as “electronic nicotine delivery systems.” This shows an understanding of a vital point: e-cigarettes are not tobacco products, they are technology products.

They are also anti-tobacco products because so many people use e-cigarettes to break away from combustible cigarettes.

Meanwhile, kids in Massachusetts can still legally buy e-cigarettes. The same is true in Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Texas, Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Oregon. And that’s wrong.

E-cigarettes are battery-powered devices that heat a liquid nicotine solution and create an inhalable vapor. Many smokers use e-cigarettes and other “vaping” products to wean themselves from their tobacco habit.

Unfortunately, because e-cigarettes are an innovative, disruptive technology, their popularity has outpaced the ability of lawmakers and regulators to come up with smart, sensible rules to govern the industry.

America’s independent manufacturers and retailers of vaping products support reasonable regulation. But the industry has been frustrated by lawmakers and regulators – and even medical professionals – who do not understand the technology of vaping products and unfairly lump them with tobacco products.

This mistake not only impedes access to a valuable tobacco substitute for smokers who want to cut down or stop smoking, but it also hamstrings small businesses that are successfully competing with Big Tobacco with unnecessary regulations that can hamper or eliminate business growth. While Big Tobacco markets its own e-cigarettes, they still depend on combustible tobacco products for the bulk of its profits, and states would be remiss to enact any policy that gives them a competitive advantage in this new and growing market.

Save money with e cigarettes- Charli CXC

These days, everybody is looking for ways to save money. One of the hardest expenses to cut from our budgets is probably smoking. The average American smoker spends over $2000 on cigarettes every year. And while this money can be put to better uses, kicking the habit and saying goodbye to tobacco and necessary expenses is harder than it might sound.

Fortunately for smokers on the budget, electronic cigarettes offer an easy compromise. Electronic cigarettes are a safer, cleaner and less expensive alternative to traditional, tobacco cigarettes. Tobacco cigarettes don’t really stand a chance in a price comparison with electronic cigarettes. If you want to save money and don’t really feel like giving your habit up, electronic cigarettes are something to consider.

Think about it: e cigarette is a one time buy, instead of an everyday expense. You can get everything you need – the so called “starter kit” for as little as forty or fifty bucks, depending on the brand and options you choose. And once you have your electronic cigarette, there’s nothing more to buy except the cartridges or the liquid used for refills – and they come dirt cheap.

The average e cigarette will last on a single refill about as long as a pack of regular smokes will. The average cost per refill for most electronic cigarettes brands is less than two bucks. Compare this with at least five bucks, which is the cost of a pack of cheapest cigarettes, and it’s clear just how much you can save over time. even though a few dollars per day might not seem like that much, think about it – two or three dollars every day mean around twenty per week, which comes out to over a thousand per year! It’s true – you can save all this money without actually giving up anything. Electronic cigarettes allow you to continue smoking at the same rate and get all the nicotine you need and still save money. It’s a bit like having your cake and eating it too.

It should be perfectly clear by now that switching from tobacco to electronic cigarettes is a smart choice for every smoker who’s interested in cutting expenses during this tough economic situation. Although you will have to make a bit of an initial investment, if you look at the big picture, it’s the smart thing to do.

E-cigarettes 'less harmful' than cigarettes-- One Direction

E-cigarettes are likely to be much less harmful than conventional cigarettes, an analysis of current scientific research suggests.

Scientists argue replacing conventional cigarettes with electronic ones could reduce smoking-related deaths even though long-term effects are unknown.

In the journal Addiction, researchers suggest e-cigarettes should face less stringent regulations than tobacco.

But experts warn encouraging their use without robust evidence is "reckless".

Instead of inhaling tobacco smoke, e-cigarette users breathe in vaporised liquid nicotine.

About two million people use electronic cigarettes in the UK, and their popularity is growing worldwide.

'Fewer toxins'

The World Health Organization and national authorities are considering policies to restrict their sales, advertising and use.

An international team examined 81 studies, looking at:

• safety concerns
• chemicals in the liquids and vapours
• use among smokers and non-smokers

Scientists say risks to users and passive bystanders are far less than those posed by cigarette smoke, but caution that the effects on people with respiratory conditions are not fully understood

And they say electronic cigarettes contain a few of the toxins seen in tobacco smoke, but at much lower levels.

They report there is no current evidence that children move from experimenting with e-cigarettes to regular use, and conclude the products do not encourage young people to go on to conventional smoking habits.

And their analysis suggests switching to e-cigarettes can help tobacco smokers quit or reduce cigarette consumption.

Prof Peter Hajek, of Queen Mary University in London, an author on the paper, told the BBC: "This is not the final list of risks, others may emerge.

"But regulators need to be mindful of crippling the e-cigarette market and by doing so failing to give smokers access to these safer products that could save their lives.

"If harsh regulations are put in place now, we will damage public health on a big scale."

Researchers conclude there should be more long-term studies comparing the health of smokers with e-cigarette users.

'Proportionate regulations'

Prof Martin McKee, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who was not involved in this analysis, told the BBC: "Health professionals are deeply divided on e-cigarettes.

"Those who treat smokers with severe nicotine addiction see them as offering a safer alternative to cigarettes.

"In marked contrast, many others, such as the 129 health experts who recently wrote to the World Health Organization, are extremely worried given the serious concerns that remain about their safety, the absence of evidence that they help smokers quit, and the way they are being exploited by the tobacco industry to target children.

"This report concedes there are huge gaps in our knowledge - yet, incredibly, encourages use of these products. This seems little short of reckless."

Martin Dockrell, at Public Health England, said: "Increasing numbers of smokers are turning to these devices as an aid to quitting and there is emerging evidence that they are effective for this purpose.

"In order to maximise the benefits to public health while managing the risks, regulation of e-cigarettes needs to be proportionate and designed to ensure the availability of safe and effective products, and to prevent the marketing of e-cigarettes to young people and non-smokers."

The Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year is...Vape-- Angelina Jolie

As 2014 draws to a close, it’s time to look back and see which words have beensignificant throughout the past twelve months, and to announce the Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year. Without further ado, we can exclusively reveal that the Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year 2014 is….vape

Although there is a shortlist of strong contenders, as you’ll see below, it was vape that emerged victorious as Word of the Year.

What does vape mean?

So, what does vape mean? It originated as an abbreviation of vapour or vaporize. TheOxfordDictionaries.com definition was added in August 2014: the verb means ‘to inhale and exhale the vapour produced by an electronic cigarette or similar device’, while both the device and the action can also be known as a vape. The associated noun vaping is also listed.

Why was vape chosen? 

As e-cigarettes (or e-cigs) have become much more common, so vape has grown significantly in popularity. You are thirty times more likely to come across the word vapethan you were two years ago, and usage has more than doubled in the past year.

Usage of vape peaked in April 2014 – as the graph below indicates – around the time that the UK’s first ‘vape café’ (The Vape Lab in Shoreditch, London) opened its doors, and protests were held in response to New York City banning indoor vaping. In the same month, the issue of vaping was debated by The Washington Post, the BBC, and the British newspaper The Telegraph, amongst others.

The language of vaping

Vape is also the modifier for other nouns, creating new compound nouns which are growing in popularity. The most common of these are vape pen and vape shop, and there is also recent evidence for vape lounge, vape fluid, vape juice, and others. Relatedcoinages include e-juice, carto, and vaporium – as well as the retronym tobacco cigarettefor traditional cigarettes. (A retronym is a new term created from an existing word in order to distinguish the original word from a later development – for example, acoustic guitardeveloping after the advent of the electric guitar.)

Vape before vaping

You may be surprised to learn that the word vaping existed before the phenomenon. Although e-cigarettes weren’t commercially available until the 21st century, a 1983 article in New Society entitled ‘Why do People Smoke?’ contains the first known usage of the term. The author, Rob Stepney, described what was then a hypothetical device: 

“an inhaler or ‘non-combustible’ cigarette, looking much like the real thing, but…delivering a metered dose of nicotine vapour. (The new habit, if it catches on, would be known as vaping.)” 

However, despite these early beginnings, Oxford Dictionaries research shows that it wasn’t until 2009 that this sense of vape (and vaping) started to appear regularly inmainstream sources.

E-cigarettes significantly reduce tobacco cravings-Brad Pitt

Electronic cigarettes offer smokers a realistic way to kick their tobacco smoking addiction. In a new study published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, scientists at KU Leuven report that e-cigarettes successfully reduced cravings for tobacco cigarettes, with only minimal side effects.

Electronic cigarettes (e-cigs) were developed as a less harmful alternative to tobacco cigarettes. They contain 100 to 1,000 times less toxic substances and emulate the experience of smoking a tobacco cigarette.

In an 8-month study, the KU Leuven researchers examined the effect of using e-cigs (“vaping”) in 48 participants, all of whom were smokers with no intention to quit. The researchers’ goal was to evaluate whether e-cigs decreased the urge to smoke tobacco cigarettes in the short term, and whether e-cigs helped people stop smoking altogether in the long-term.

The participants were divided into three groups: two e-cig groups, which were allowed to vape and smoke tobacco cigarettes for the first two months of the study, and a control group that only had access to tobacco. In a second phase of the study, the control group was given e-cigs and all participants were monitored for a period of six months via a web tool, where they regularly logged their vaping and smoking habits. 

In the lab, the e-cigs proved to be just as effective in suppressing the craving for a smoke as tobacco cigarettes were, while the amount of exhaled carbon monoxide  remained at baseline levels. In the long-term analysis, results showed that the smokers were more likely to trade in their tobacco cigarettes for e-cigs and taper off their tobacco use.

At the end of the 8-month study, 21% of all participants had stopped smoking tobacco entirely (verified via a CO test), whereas an additional 23% reported cutting the number of tobacco cigarettes they smoked per day by half.

Across all three groups, the number of tobacco cigarettes smoked per day decreased by 60%.

“All the groups showed similar results after we introduced the e-cigs,” concluded Professor Frank Baeyens and postdoctoral researcher Dinska Van Gucht of the Psychology of Learning and Experimental Psychopathology Unit. “With guidance on practical use, the nicotine e-cig offers many smokers a successful alternative for smoking less – or even quitting altogether. E-cig users get the experience of smoking a cigarette and inhale nicotine vapor, but do not suffer the damaging effects of a tobacco cigarette.”

“By comparison: of all the smokers who quit using nothing but willpower, only 3 to 5% remain smoke-free for 6 to 12 months after quitting,” says Baeyens.

Nicotine e-cigs are currently banned in Belgium. In light of their study results, the researchers are now urging for a new legal framework for nicotine vaping in Belgium. All neighboring countries allow the sale of nicotine e-cigs.

German court: e-cigarette liquids not medicines- Obama

BERLIN (AP) - A German federal court has ruled that the liquids contained in e-cigarettes aren't medicinal products and can be sold freely.

E-cigarettes are battery-powered devices that produce an odorless vapor which typically contains nicotine, and sometimes flavorings. The Federal Administrative Court delivered its verdict Thursday in a case involving a woman who ran an e-cigarette shop in the western city of Wuppertal.

City authorities barred her in 2012 from selling liquids containing nicotine in various strengths on the ground that they were pharmaceutical products which weren't licensed as such and therefore couldn't be marketed. A lower court ruling went against the plaintiff.

E-cigarettes are often described as a less dangerous alternative to regular cigarettes that may help regular smokers quit. However, there hasn't been much research on them yet.

Vaping and the data on e-cigarettes- Justin Timberlake

Oxford Dictionaries has selected vape as Word of the Year 2014, so we asked several experts to comment on the growth of electronic cigarettes and the vaping phenomenon.

Vaping is the term for using an electronic cigarette (e-cigarette). Since e-cigarette use involves inhaling vapour rather than smoke, it is distinct from smoking. The vapour looks somewhat like cigarette smoke but dissipates much more quickly and has very little odour since it mostly consists of water droplets.

E-cigarettes started to become popular around 2010 and it is estimated they are currently being used by more than 2 million people in the United Kingdom and more than 5 million in the United States. Their sale is banned in many countries, including Australia and Canada, although surveys show that use in these is widespread since they can easily be obtained via the Internet.

E-cigarettes are devices in which a battery-powered heating element vaporises an ‘e-liquid’ usually containing propylene glycol or glycerol, nicotine, and flavourings. They are designed to provide much of the experience of smoking but with much lower risk, less annoyance to bystanders, and usually much more cheaply. Because they do not involve burning of tobacco, the concentrations of toxins in the vapour are typically a tiny fraction of those in cigarette smoke. The precise risk from using them is not known, but based on the vapour constituents it would be expected to be between 1% and 5% that of smoking.

Data on e-cigarette use are not available for most countries. By far the most complete data come from England where the ‘Smoking Toolkit Study’ (STS) collects data on usage from nationally representative samples of adults every month enabling this to be tracked closely over time. This study was established to track ‘key performance indicators’ relating to smoking and smoking cessation and has been going since 2007. Action on Smoking and Health also conducts large national surveys of adults and young people each year. Large scale surveys are also being conducted in the United States and some other countries. The data show that most people use e-cigarettes in an effort to protect their health either by stopping smoking altogether or cutting down. Despite misleading claims by some anti- e-cigarette advocates, use by never-smokers and long-term ex-smokers is extremely rare in the UK and US at present, and in England its prevalence in never-smokers and long-term ex-smokers is similar to the use of ‘licensed nicotine products’ (LNPs) such as nicotine patches, gum, or lozenges.

E-cigarettes come in many different forms. In England, the most commonly used ones at present are known as ‘cigalikes’ because they look something like a cigarette and often have a tip that glows when the user takes a puff. Becoming more popular are devices that involve a refillable ‘tank’. There are also more sophisticated ‘mod’ systems which are highly customised. These are often the choice of aficionados.

Most e-cigarette users probably obtain less nicotine from these devices than people typically do from cigarettes, but experienced vapers using tank systems or mods can obtain at least as much nicotine from their devices as do smokers.

When used in a quit attempt, on average e-cigarettes seem to improve the chances of successful quitting by about 50%, similar to licensed nicotine products when used as directed. The main difference appears to be that these devices are much more popular, and they seem to be effective when people use them without any support from a health professional. Currently the evidence still indicates that use of the drug varenicline or a licensed nicotine product with specialist behavioural support provides the best chance of quitting for those smokers who are willing to use this support and where such support is available. 

When used for cutting down, daily (but not non-daily) use of e-cigarettes seems to be associated with a modest reduction in cigarette consumption on average. Use of licensed nicotine products for cutting down has been found to be associated with an increased likelihood of later smoking cessation. This has not yet been demonstrated for e-cigarettes, although smokers who use e-cigarettes daily do try to quit smoking more often than those who are not ‘dual users’.

Despite claims from some anti- e-cigarette advocates, in England and the United States, e-cigarettes are currently not acting as a ‘gateway’ to smoking in adolescents or ‘renormalising’ smoking. Youth and adult smoking have continued to decline steadily as e-cigarette use has grown and in England adult smoking cessation rates are somewhat higher than they were before e-cigarettes started to become popular. E-cigarette use in indoor public areas has not led to any increase in smoking in these areas in the UK and compliance with smoke-free legislation remains extremely high.

Some e-cigarette advertising seeks to glamorise vaping and in some countries appears to blur the boundaries between smoking and vaping. This has led to concern that it might make vaping attractive to non-smokers and countries such as the UK have regulated to prevent this. 

There is some controversy over vaping. A number of high-profile public health advocates have engaged in what appears to be a propaganda campaign against them, creating an impression in the public consciousness that they are more dangerous than they are and that they are undermining tobacco control efforts when the evidence does not support this. It is reasonable to be concerned about what may happen in the future with tobacco companies dominating the e-cigarette market and being incentivised to maximise tobacco sales, but much of the anti- e-cigarette propaganda appears to be motivated more by a puritanical ethic than a dispassionate assessment of the evidence. Maximising the public health opportunity presented by e-cigarettes, while minimising the potential threat, requires collecting good data, using this information to construct an appropriate regulatory strategy, and monitoring the situation closely to adjust the strategy as required. England appears to be leading the way in this with an approach designed to encourage smokers to use e-cigarettes to stop smoking, while not undermining use of potentially more effective quitting methods, and preventing e-cigarettes becoming a gateway into smoking. The Smoking Toolkit Study, the ASH surveys, and other research will continue to provide essential information needed to inform this strategy.

Study: E Cigarette Less Addictive Than Tobacco Cigarettes- Taylor Swift

A new study from Penn State’s College of Medicine is showing what many had suspected all along — that the addictiveness of electronic cigarettes is distinctly lower than that of tobacco cigarettes. The study looked at the e-cig and tobacco “dependance scores” of more than 3,500 individuals with histories of using both products. Every individual that exhibited high dependance on electronic cigarettes exhibited a higher dependance on tobacco cigarettes.

According to Jonathan Foulds, Ph.D., professor of public health sciences and psychiatry at Penn State’s College of Medicine:
We found that e-cigarettes appear to be less addictive than tobacco cigarettes in a large sample of long-term users.

He goes on to add:
We don’t have long-term health data of e-cig use yet, but any common sense analysis says that e-cigs are much less toxic. And our paper shows that they appear to be much less addictive, as well. So in both measures they seem to have advantages when you’re concerned about health.

You can read more about the study right here.

The researchers suggest that this reduced addictiveness may be related to the products’ inability to deliver nicotine as effectively. While this is almost certainly true, other researchers and preliminary evidence suggests that, in the absence of smoke (and many other constituents found in tobacco cigarettes), nicotine just isn’t as addictive when delivered via vapor.

The study shows promise not only for those hoping to quit, but also for those that start using electronic cigarettes without using other tobacco produces. There is significant concern that electronic cigarettes may lead the way to a new generation of addicted nicotine consumers. Evidence is already suggesting that a lifetime of nicotine consumption with electronic cigarettes has the potential to be no more harmful that a lifetime of caffeine use. Some experts have even claimed that a lifetime of e-cig use could be no more harmful than 2 months of smoking.

So for those that accept that part of the science, the argument becomes that addictiveness on its own is enough to warrant age restrictions, flavor and usage bans, and counter marketed. If that were truly the case, then caffeine, cheese, and video games would be more tightly controlled too. Now, it appears likely that those consuming nicotine exclusively via e-cigs may be more capable of quitting if they decide to do so. So even that argument is becoming hard to make.

American Heart Association Study Finds Vaping More Effective for Quitting Smoking than FDA-Approved Products- Vectoria's Secret

New study shows need for reasonable regulation, says American Vaping Association

WASHINGTON, D.C. -The American Vaping Association, a leading advocate for the benefits of vapor products such as electronic cigarettes, reacted to the release of a new study published in the American Heart Association’s Circulation Journal. The meta-analysis of six previously published studies found an 18% smoking cessation rate (224/1,242) after 6 months for smokers who used vapor products containing nicotine. This compares to an average cessation rate of 7% at six months for FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapy products like the nicotine gum, patch, and lozenge.
Gregory Conley, president of the American Vaping Association, issued the following statement:
“This study demonstrates exactly why e-cigarettes and vapor products have become so popular among smokers looking to quit. For smokers looking to quit, vaping is undeniably a viable option. Additionally, research continues to show that vaping is especially helpful for smokers who have tried and failed to quit multiple times with government-approved methods like the nicotine patch, gum, and lozenge. Genuine public health advocates should cheer this new study.
“We remain very concerned that the public health benefits of vaping could be squashed by improper and excessive FDA regulation. If approved, the FDA’s proposed deeming regulation would act as a de facto ban on over 99% of e-cigarette products currently available on the market. Dramatically decreasing product variety will hinder, not help, the FDA’s goal of reducing tobacco-related disease and death.
“We continue to call on House and Senate leadership to introduce a bill in 2015 that would substantially alter the FDA’s authority over e-cigarette products already on the market.”
About the American Vaping Association:
The American Vaping Association is a nonprofit organization that advocates for small- and medium-sized businesses in the rapidly growing vaping and electronic cigarette industry. We are dedicated to educating the public and government officials about financial and public health benefits offered by vapor products, which are battery-powered devices that heat a liquid nicotine or nicotine-free solution and create an inhalable vapor.

Excellent News As E-Cigarette, Or Vaping, Use Rises-You can buy more as ruble collapse, Putin says!

We’ve news from the government that the use of e-cigarettes, or vaping, is on the rise among schoolchildren and teenagers. We might think that this is a health story and it is, but behind it is an interesting little economic point and a guide to public policy. The question really revolves around whether vaping is a substitute for smoking or a complement (yes, complement, not compliment).

Here’s something from the government report:

Daily cigarette smoking has decreased markedly over the past five years (almost 50 percent) across all grades. For eighth graders, it dropped to 1.4 percent compared to 2.7 percent five years ago. Among 10th graders, it dropped to 3.2 percent compared to 6.3 percent five years ago. Among high school seniors, it dropped to 6.7 percent, down from 8.5 percent last year and 11.2 percent five years ago.
“Despite the positive developments this year, we are concerned about the levels of e-cigarette use among teens that we are seeing,” said Lloyd D. Johnston, Ph.D., principal investigator, Institute for Social Research, University of Michigan. “It would be a tragedy if this product undid some of the great progress made to date in reducing cigarette smoking by teens.”


The worry in that second paragraph seems to be that greater e-cigarette usage will lead to greater cigarette usage at some future point. But as the NY Times emphasises from the same report that information in the first paragraph:

E-cigarettes have split the public health world, with some experts arguing that they are the best hope in generations for the 18 percent of Americans who still smoke to quit. Others say that people are using them not to quit but to keep smoking, and that they could become a gateway for young people to take up real cigarettes.
But that does not seem to be happening, at least so far. Daily cigarette use among teenagers continued to decline in 2014, the survey found, dropping across all grades by nearly half over the past five years. Among high school seniors, for example, 6.7 percent reported smoking cigarettes daily in 2014, compared with 11 percent five years ago.
That halving of teen smoking rates coincides with the invention and introduction of vaping (overlaps at least, the first devices really came in 2007). And other studies show very much the same thing. People use vaping equipment instead of smoking, not as a gateway to it nor does vaping increase smoking prevalence. It is thus a substitute, not a complement. As such of course it is to be greatly welcomed. Sure, everyone (adult at least) should be free to chart their own course to the grave and if that includes coughing up their lungs after decades of smoking so be it. And similarly there’s a public health interest in minimising the number of people who do. So tax tobacco until the eyes water (along with the general interest in taxing things with highly inelastic demand) and do discourage the practice.

However, we do have rather a Baptists and bootleggers situation going on here. There are those who, as with the Baptists and booze, think that any drug use, even the inhalation of nicotine, is simply wrong, perhaps even evil. It should thus be entirely expunged from our society. And there’s also those over in Big Pharma who have invested very large sums (it really does cost up to $1 billion to bring a new drug to market) in various pharmaceutical smoking cessation aids. And they would be very interested in being able to market those without having to face the competition of a $3 piece of electronics assembled in a shed in China. It’s this that gives us the background to the discussions about whether the FDA should be regulating e-cigarettes. Should the technology have to support the costs faced by the drugs industry or not? Given that it’s not a drug probably not but that’s the way the debate is being run.

If e-cigarettes were a complement to smoking then the answer would run the other way: sure, their use should be discouraged and so on. Given that all the evidence we have is that they’re a substitute then it runs this way. That vaping, at least so far as we know, is the most successful smoking cessation product any one has as yet invented (and do note that nothing else at all has halved teen smoking rates in only 5 years) means that we really shouldn’t be putting roadblocks in front of further adoption of the technology. A slightly closer look at the details might be appropriate but why one earth would we want to derail what works? Unless we were against the very idea of nicotine on either moral or business competition grounds?

Ex-smoker considers electronic cigarettes a life-saver, plans to open vaping store-- make money

He was 14 when he rode his bike to a shop on Linglestown Road and bought his first cigarette.

Keith Kepler was hooked. He smoked for the next four decades.

That all changed late in December when Kepler, by accident, walked into a store that sold electronic cigarettes. That was the last time he had a cigarette.

“Vaping has changed my life so much for the better,” Kepler said. “I smoked for 43 years, and I will never smoke another cigarette. This is a great viable and enjoyable alternative to killing yourself with cigarettes, and you still get your nicotine in a lot better flavor.”

Millions of former smokers have embraced e-cigarettes as an alternative to smoking. The battery-powered devices heat up a flavored liquid to deliver nicotine without any of the tobacco and chemicals of cigarettes, emitting a vapor instead of secondhand smoke.

Since they arrived on the market in 2009, along with millions of converts, e-cigarettes have generated scrutiny and concern that they are not as benign and safe as they are made out to be. Fueled by those concerns, lawmakers and health and substance abuse experts are increasingly calling for stricter state and federal regulation of the devices.

E-cigarette converts such as Kepler, meanwhile, can’t help singing the praises of a device that, he says, has had a profound impact in every aspect of his life. He is even investing money in it and opening up his own vaping shop.

“I feel so strongly about how positively it has affected my life and made it better,” Kepler said. “It was given to me and has changed my life so much in a positive way, I want to share it with people. I want to say you don’t have to stick those horrible things in your body.”

Neither Pennsylvania nor Washington have passed legislation to regulate the sale and public use of e-cigarettes, and what ordinances there are from one jurisdiction to another, have been passed at the local level.

"This is a great viable and enjoyable alternative to killing yourself with cigarettes." - Keith Kepler
Kepler said most e-cigarette users abide by self-imposed and common sense decisions.

“You gotta use your head,” he said. “I would not go into restaurant and vape at the table. It gives too many people that like to pick things apart ammunition. Anyone who wants to walk into a PTA meeting and start vaping ... somebody has to talk to them about their sense of judgment.”

Kepler finds that most people misunderstand e-cigarettes. The majority, he said, are under the impression that what he is expelling from his lungs is secondhand smoke. It’s a water vapor produced from a flavored liquid laced with nicotine.

Keith Kepler of Susquehanna Township shows how to use an electronic cigarette vaping device. A vaping device uses a liquid mixed with small amounts of nicotine that gets vaporized in a battery powered atomizer. The vapor created is inhaled and exhaled, simulating the experience of smoking.

“The air freshener you use at home is more harmful for you than what’s in vaping,” Kepler said.

To date no medical studies have drawn conclusive findings as to the potential risks of e-cigarettes.

Kepler won’t use his vaping devices in front of his grandchildren, or in some public places, like a public bus, but he did recently turn one on at a Costco.

“Nobody said a word to me,” he said. “You gotta use your head.”

Kepler favors what he calls common sense legislation to regulate e-cigarettes, which currently fall under no state nor federal law.

The Food and Drug Administration, which has yet to issue regulation on e-cigarettes, is being urged by lawmakers to impose restrictions for the sale and public use of e-cigarettes.

Kepler supports a state Senate bill that would restrict the sale of e-cigarettes to people 18 and older. Senate Bill 1055, sponsored by Sen. Timothy Solaby, a Democrat from western Pennsylvania, is pending approval from the chamber before it moves on to the state House.

Solaby said he's heard from a number of manufacturers who support the bill.

"I don't think they were initially targeting kids but unfortunately kids have become mesmerized by this and have started using it," he said.

On the other hand, Kepler is opposed to legislation that would impose taxes and any restrictions that would discourage adult smokers from trying them.

“I don’t want to see legislation that scares people away from it,” Kepler said. “Smoking is bad. There’s no two ways about it. I did it for 43 years.

"I have so much more energy. I sleep better. I’m able to do my duties better. I want to see as many people as possible have the opportunity to experience this and not get scared away because somebody uninformed about product says they are smoking in public place. No, they are not.”

Kepler admits he's addicted to the mild stimulant in cigarettes and e-cigarettes. “Yes, I need nicotine, just like I need my caffeine in the morning,” he said.

He has no intention of going back to smoking. Back in December, when he picked up his first e-cigarette, he gave away his pack of cigarettes.

“My wife still has a half a pack that she is going to keep as memorabilia,” he said.

Downtown’s Vaping Pioneers Aim High- Bieber's smoking face is fucking hot!

Melissa Bailey Photo MELISSA BAILEY PHOTO Instead of smoking a cigarette, Art Boivin, Jr. bellied up to a downtown “flavor bar” and took a drag of Neon Cloud on his Kanger eVod VV.

“It tastes like heaven,” declared Boivin.

Boivin (pictured) is one of the regulars at White Buffalo Vapors at 748 Chapel St., the city’s first and only e-cigarette lounge.

The shop has been quietly building a customer base for several months at its digs across from 360 State St. and the Elm City Market. By summer’s end, the store will expand to sell espresso and tea and to serve as a venue for open-mic poetry and music, according to Sammy Chamino.


Chamino, Zabar and Young.
Chamino is one of three 20-somethings who opened the business together in March, getting in on a craze that is sweeping the nation. The owners—Chamino, Sasha Zabar and Max Young—are best friends and e-cigarette enthusiasts who have used vaping, or smoking e-cigarettes, as a means of quitting smoking.

Now they’re hoping to ride the vaping mania along a historic stretch of lower Chapel Street that has shown signs of reviving while also facing its share of vacant buildings and quality-of-life problems.

Monday evening found the White Buffalo trio working behind the “flavor bar,” serving customers free samples of “juice.”

Boivin sat down at the bar, which has a “no smoking” sign. He ordered a combo he calls “Neon Cloud”—a mix of Neon Iguana and Crimson Cloud, two house-made flavors of fruity “juice.” The juice is a mix of propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, flavoring, water and nicotine that White Buffalo Vapors mixes in a kitchen space near Mechanic Street. Boivin filled his battery-powered e-cigarette with Neon Cloud and pressed a button to light up.

He inhaled a vapor containing 1.8 percent, or 18 milligrams per milliliter, of nicotine. He said his goal is to cut down to zero.

Boivin, like many customers entering the threshold of the “vapothecary,” is trying to quit smoking cigarettes. A friend turned him on to vaping, or inhaling nicotine in a vapor instead of as smoke. This way, he can control the amount of nicotine per puff—and eventually cut down to nicotine-free juice.

Boivin, who’s 39, of Watertown, smoked for 20 years. He said he has basically quit smoking—as long as his e-cig is charged up and he doesn’t run out of juice. He motioned to a drawstring backpack, which he said was full of juice vials he bought at White Buffalo Vapors. He said he visits the lounge once or twice every day.

Boivin showed up at the shop Monday with a friend, Giovanni Zurlo.

Zurlo, who smoked for 20 years, said he tried all sorts of ways to quit: patches, gums, “hitting myself in the head.” Now Zurlo has gone two months without lighting a cigarette. Instead, he picked up his double-coiled e-cigarette and took a puff of Carrie, one of the flavors White Buffalo Vapors makes in-house. (It’s named after Young’s mom.) The dosage of nicotine was low—just 0.6 percent. It tasted like kiwi and blueberry, he said.


Those types of fruity flavors have prompted warnings from U.S.  Sen. Dick Blumenthal and others about the dangers of marketing nicotine to kids. As it stands, e-cigarettes are unregulated.

Chamino, a self-described “bleeding-heart liberal,” said he supports regulating the industry. He said he has banned e-cigarette sales to minors in his store ahead of a federal movement to do so.

But he said he does not agree with critics who couch vaping as unsafe. It’s much better for you than traditional smoking, he argued, because there’s no combustion and no tar.

Chamino and Zabar said they both used to smoke. They were healthy guys, they said, except for the smoking habit. Zabar said he started to “feel dirty” from smoking. His hands smelled; his girlfriend urged him to stop. Six months ago, he did—by sucking in vapor in flavors like Nectar by Adam Bomb and Cloud Science Alpha by Big Teleos.

Chamino, who’s 26, grew up in New Jersey along with Young. Chamino said he moved to New Haven to live with some friends. He met Zabar in a political science class at Southern Connecticut State University; Zabar played Mitt Romney, and Chamino played Obama, in a mock debate. Chamino then recruited Young to move to New Haven and live here.

Young (pictured), who was deep into vaping before his friends, came up with the idea to open an e-cigarette store and lounge. Vapothecaries were exploding across the country, but not in New Haven. They found a vacant storefront across from the 360 State apartment tower, in a building owned by Chris Nicotra’s Olympia Properties. The storefront used to house the Las Vegas cell phone shop. It had been vacant for six months when the White Buffalo moved in.

The trio replaced the floor with wood and exposed the brick walls. They opened in mid-March with subtle signage that is most visible to people waiting right outside the door for the public bus. The store serves a mix of customers who reflect the range of people getting into e-cigarettes. Some enter in search of a $50 starter kit to help them kick the smoking habit. Others are hobbyists looking to scoop up a $250 Hana Modz e-cigarette device with a 30-watt chip, and load in gothic-imaged flavors like Suicide Bunny’s Mother’s Milk, which tastes like strawberry custard.

The store sits on a block of Chapel that represents its own mix of discount and gourmet. On one side of the street lie the organic fruits of the Elm City Market and vintage dresses at the English Market. On the other side, where White Buffalo roams, a Dollar Tree is moving into a long-vacant commercial space.

Chamino said he has been trying to get the city to power-wash the sidewalk on his side of the street so it looks more appealing. The bus stop right outside the shop has been a mixed blessing, Zabar (pictured) said: It has brought both down-and-out loiterers and valued customers.

This summer, Chamino and his partners plan to tear down the shop’s drop-ceiling and finish renovating the back half of the store. They plan to start serving espresso and tea, start up open mic nights and movie nights, and open up a back patio for customers.

“We want to have a community space,” Chamino said.

He envisions the store as “the healthy alternative to the Owl Shop,” the popular cigar-and-live-music joint on College Street: instead of cigars, e-cigs. Instead of alcohol, coffee and tea.

If the plan goes well, who knows, the White Buffalo may expand beyond New Haven.

“Next year,” declared Young, “in Jerusalem.”

E-Cigs picking up steam right across Canada and abroad --Seems like Katty Perr's mouth!

The new craze these days is tobacco harm reduction. Smokers are turning to electronic cigarettes as an aid to quit smoking.

So, how do you vape? That’s the question companies who offer electronic cigarettes (e-cigs) are asking consumers these days.
It seems that the tobacco harm reduction movement is in full swing and droves of companies are cashing in on the new trend. Picking an e-cigarette over a real cigarette appears to be the lesser of the two evils.
Mark Bradshaw, who lives in Toronto, ON, had his first cigarette when he was in his early teens.
Since he started smoking he quickly became a pack to a pack-and-a-half a day user.
He totally regrets starting the bad habit.
However, the 44 year-old got a stern warning from his doctor only a few months ago.
“My doc told me I had some scar tissue on my left lung which could lead to a hole in the lung,” he says during an interview. “He told me if I kept on smoking I would soon die. That was one of the scariest moments of my life. I knew I had to quit right away.”
On his way home from the doctor, he stopped in at a local Shoppers Drug Mart to pick up the nicotine patch and some chewing gum to begin his smoke-free journey.
He then came across a display of e-cigs (nicotine free) and decided to buy one and try it out.
“I had nothing to lose,” he says. “Something told me to give the e-cig thing a shot, and it’s the best thing I ever did.”
Since using e-cigs over the last 12 weeks, he hasn’t touched a cigarette.
“I will be honest e-cigs in Canada don’t have any nicotine, so my body was missing it for the first month. It was tough – I had some miserable cravings but I got through them. I actually chewed on some nicotine gum while using the e-cigs and it worked. The new products out there really help with the actual hand to mouth habit of smoking.”
Just about every place across the nation - convenience stores, gas stations, malls, and drug stores – is now selling e-cigs. The ‘vape’ experience is in hardcore; much like smoking was years ago.
The e-cig business is expected to be a $14-billion industry within three years’ time, according to Wells Fargo.
At drug stores, like Shoppers Drug Mart and Rexall, e-cigs are normally sold in the Nicotine Replacement Therapy Sections.
There are a wide variety of brands out there that people are using and notable include Dune, GetVapes, and Nano by Jasper & Jasper.
Steve Muzaic, Vice President for Nano E-Cigs by Jasper & Jasper, says his company is seeing its sales grow each month.
“The numbers of e-cig users keeps on climbing,” he says. “Tobacco harm reduction is the new trend and people are turning to e-cigs as a safer alternative to smoking.”
He adds, “Cigarettes are known to contain hundreds of chemicals, which are carcinogenic. Products like Nano allows users to feel like they are smoking, but they’re not taking in any of the harmful chemicals.”
Products being offered start from about $10 and the ones that required replacement cartridges are between $75 and $120.
Each e-cig lasts for about two to three days for an average smoker, which about is two packs.
Health professionals in Canada are keeping a close eye on the e-cig movement.
John Chenery, Manager of Communications for the Lung Association in Ontario, indicates that they want more “research into the potential health effects of electronic cigarettes.”
Jennifer Miller, vice-president of health promotion with the Lung Association states, “I think we owe it to millions of Canadians who are addicted to tobacco products. If there’s a product out there that may have some merit to bring down those numbers, we have to look at it.”
“Nano by Jasper & Jasper can’t claim that e-cigs actually get people off of tobacco,” says Muzaic. “But we can safely say that people are using them and trying them out as they feel they are safer than smoking real cigarettes.”
The federal government of Canada has collected nearly $25-billion over the last two years from the sale of tobacco.
Around the world the e-cig fad is taking off big time.
According to the UK government nearly 1.3 million smokers have quit cigarettes when using c-cigs. In the US, that number is nearly 4 million. No data on this matter is available yet in Canada.
Health Canada at present is not supporting the sale and use of e-cigs, but they too still want to research and look in the products offered more closely.

E-Cigarettes: A Rising Trend Among College Youth

E-cigarette users may feel that they are different from traditional smokers. The college doesn’t feel the same way.

The new trend is known as “vaping” and by most, is not considered the same as smoking. All California State University and UC campuses are in the process of banning electronic cigarettes.

Chinese pharmacist Hon Lik, invented the first nicotine based e-cigarette in 2003. Most thought that e-cigs would be a fad, but they are growing in popularity more than ever. It is believed that e-cigarettes will surpass the amount of sales for regular cigarettes within the next 10 years.

One can go to almost any smoke shop and find refillable “e-cig” starter kits, complete the battery, tank and charger for anywhere from $25 to $50, well within even the most frugal college student’s budget.

Even cheaper disposable e-cigs are seen more frequently than they used to be at mini-marts and gas stations.

Some go all out and spend hundreds of dollars on vaping materials, buying different modifications and customizing their e-cigarette hardware.

Many people also argue that e-cigarettes are healthier. The “smoke” produced by e-cigarettes is roughly equivalent to water vapor, which is why many people believe so.

A nicotine solution is mixed with propylene glycol, which is known as “e-fluid”. It is then heated up and released as vapor through the “filter” when the person inhales or holds down a button. According to studies, less particulates and toxins are sent into the environment from the vapor than regular cigarette smoke.

StatisticBrain.com states that 35% of people who tried e-cigarettes quit smoking normal cigarettes within six months. The amount of sales for electronic cigarettes has dramatically increased from roughly $20 million in 2008 to over $1.7 billion dollars in sales.

The tobacco industry is aware of this huge market boom, and is attempting to buy out, with their billions, the major e-cigarette manufacturers. Philip Morris International, makers of Marlboro cigarettes, said they planned to enter the e-cigarette market in 2014 in response to the trends.

Mel Moscoso, a fine art major at the college, is an e-cigarette user who switched from traditional cigarettes.

Moscoso began “vaping” in order to quit using nicotine all together. Moscoso stated he has been lowering the amount of nicotine in the “e-fluids” he purchases, and plans to quit when he reaches zero nicotine. He also confirmed he has been one-hundred-percent cigarette-free for three months.

“After a month of straight ‘vaping’ and not smoking, I can breathe better in the morning when I wake up, my sense of smell improved, and I can honestly taste food better,” Moscoso said.

Moscoso also said that he believes e-cigarettes are a healthier choice than smoking regular cigarettes because cigarettes, “contain at least four thousand chemicals compared to e-cigarettes; which is way less”

Brandon Duval, another student at College of Sequoias, however, believes the opposite. Brandon stated that he has been smoking cigarettes for around 20 years and has tried to quit numerous times. Duval said that he has actually tried the new alternative, e-cigarettes, and they “don’t really satisfy the need of a regular cigarette.”

“You get more nicotine per puff, but the flavor’s not there…unfortunately, it’s just not the same thing.” Duval also said there is no such thing as a healthy alternative to cigarettes.

“You’re still putting toxins into your system…either way, it’s still bad for you.” Duval believes that e-cigarettes are a gateway into regular smoking. He said that tighter regulations should be put into effect so youth do not become addicted to the new ‘candy nicotine’. “It’s still considered smoking, so as far as I’m concerned, if they’re going to regulate regular cigarettes they might as well regulate the e-cigarettes.”

College of the Sequoias, meanwhile, currently lacks a specific e-cigarette policy. The college’s police chief, Bob Masterson, said that he noticed e-cigarette use picking up at the college a year ago. Masterson has completed a draft of a policy that would see e-cigarette users corraled into the same areas as traditional cigarette smokers.

Masterson said that the draft still has to go through the new channels of approval set forth by the COS 2.0 reorganization process.

“Where it goes from there is beyond me,” Masterson said. “As of now, the campus smoking policy involves tobacco products and nicotine products only. What we’re looking to change is to include the e-cigarettes as well.”

Masterson also said there has not been enough research to conclude that e-cigarettes are really a healthier alternative to regular cigarettes, and that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration needs to do more research on the matter before one can jump to any conclusions.

“We are looking at coming in line with just like the UC and Cal State [campuses]…e-cigarettes are just the same as cigarettes.”

Americans give electronic cigarettes mixed reviews,while most think it's amazing

A woman displays a package of E-cigarette, an electronic substitute in the form of a rod, slightly longer than a normal cigarette, in Bordeaux, southwestern France, on March 25, 2008.

Should electronic cigarettes be a new option for smokers trying to kick the habit? Reactions from Americans are mixed.  More than half of people questioned in a poll think electronic cigarettes should be regulated by the US Food and Drug Administration, but 47 percent believe the devices should be available to smokers who want to quit.  "In the hunt for a safer cigarette, electronic cigarettes, often referred to as ecigarettes, are becoming a popular option among those either trying to quit or who are looking to replace standard tobacco smoke with an alternative that manufacturers claim to be safer," Zogby  International, which conducted the poll, said in a statement.  About half of the 4,611 adults who took part in the poll had heard about ecigarettes, which are battery-powered, or rechargeable devices that vaporize a liquid nicotine solution. They do not produce smoke but an odorless water vapor.
Last year the World Health Organization (WHO) warned against using electronic cigarettes, saying there was no evidence to prove they were safe or helped smokers break the habit. The WHO said people who puff on ecigarettes inhale a fine mist of nicotine in the lungs.  Nearly a third of people questioned in the poll think that e-cigarettes, because they don't produce smoke, should be allowed in places where smoking is forbidden, but 46 percent disagreed. Men who were aware of the availability of  ecigarettes were more likely than women to say they should be an option available to smokers who want to quit.  Young people, aged 18-29, and singles were the groups most open to trying electronic cigarettes.  
Tobacco is the single largest cause of preventable death worldwide, according to the WHO.

Will you still suck regular cigarette?? Gaga will look down upon you.

In September 2008 the World Health Organization issued a statement warning smokers that there was no evidence to back up claims that e-cigarettes could help them quit. So what do we know about them？

E-cigarettes were invented by Hon Lik of electronics company Ruyan in Beijing, China. Ruyan sold its first electronic cigarette in May 2004, and e-cigarettes have been growing in popularity ever since. Accurate figures are hard to come by, but Ruyan — the world’s biggest manufacturer — claims to have sold over 300,000 in 2008. Smart Smokers, one company which sells Ruyan’s cigarettes in the UK, says sales are rising exponentially. In the US, hit TV show The Doctors featured the e-cigarette in the top 10 health trends of 2008. In a world where smoking is increasingly socially unacceptable, the e-cigarette looks like a success story in the making.

The device itself is pretty simple. It resembles a normal cigarette in shape and size but instead of containing cured tobacco it is mostly full of battery and an LED. The disposable filter holds a cartridge containing nicotine dissolved in propylene glycol, the liquid that is vaporized in nightclub smoke machines. When you take a drag, a pressure sensor switches on an electric heating coil that vaporizes the PG and releases the “smoke”. The strongest cartridge contains about the same amount of nicotine as a regularstrength cigarette, but lasts for about 300 puffs in comparison with a regular cigarette that lasts for about 15. The cartridges don’t “burn down” but deliver a puff whenever you choose to take one. Cartridges come in high, medium, low and zero-nicotine strength and cost around $1. 50 each.   However, on a per puff basis, the strongest cartridge only delivers around one-third the amount of nicotine delivered by a puff on a normal cigarette, says Murray Laugesen, a public health researcher who campaigned against tobacco smoking in New Zealand and is now studying the impact of smoking e-cigarettes.

E-Cigarettes Safer

Cigarette smoking kills. That we know. So, manufacturers made electronic cigarettes as a safer smoking choice - safer than tobacco.

E-cigarettes contain the drug nicotine like cigarettes. But they do not use tobacco. And you do not light them. They are powered by battery.

So, if e-cigarettes are so safe, why have poison control centers around the United States seen an increase in telephone calls about e-cigarette poisonings?  

The answer is children. 

Most of the calls are from people worried about children who have played with the devices. In the period of one month this year, the United States Centers for Disease Control say 215 people called the Center with e-cigarette concerns. More than half of these calls were for children ages five and younger. The devices apparently had made them sick. 

  Tim McAfee is director of the CDC's Office on Smoking and Health. He says the problem is regulation. Meaning, the U.S. federal government does not control e-cigarettes even though they contain liquid nicotine. Mr. McAfee adds that liquid nicotine is a well-known danger.  

"Nicotine historically has been used as a pesticide in the United States. And that's where we have really had for many, many decades significant poisonings when people got exposed to nicotine that was in liquid solutions."  

Mr. McAfee explains that nicotine poisoning happens when the substance gets into the skin, gets into the eyes or is swallowed. Even a small amount, he says, can 

make a person sick.   Nicotine poisoning can cause stomach pain or a sense of unbalance. Headaches and seizures are also common signs of nicotine poisoning. And too much nicotine can kill.  

Tim McAfee says e-cigarettes do not create the level of risk to people that tobacco products do. He notes that almost 500,000 Americans die each year from cigarettes.

"So, cigarettes are the winner in that contest. And we don't really know what's going to happen with e-cigarettes." 

E-cigarettes do not contain hundreds of harmful chemicals that are found in real cigarettes. So, the U.S. Surgeon General has suggested that e-cigarettes may be a useful tool for adults trying end their tobacco use, or quit.  

But McAfee worries that teenagers may think electronic cigarettes are harmless. They could become addicted, or hooked, on the nicotine and then start smoking real cigarettes. In other words, he fears that for young people fake e-cigarettes could be a "gateway" to the real thing.   And that's the Health Report. I'm Anna Matteo.

A beauty sold cigarette here

I go the Kewadin Casino very often, a beauty sold cigarette here is quite charming. 

The restaurant at the Kewadin Casino in Sault Ste. Marie, MI, is no better than the one in St. Ignace. The only saving grace is that if you have points on your Northern Rewards card you can eat for free. That being said, I had rather pay for some decent food rather than get free food that is not worth it. 

The salad bar had only iceberg lettuce. There is nothing that tastes as nasty as iceberg. So getting a decent salad was totally out of the question. 

They had something that was suppose to be Indian Fry bread. While it did have a decent flavor it was so oversized that there was enough for several people to share It was about two to three inches thick. 

I had a chicken breast that was moist and tasty even though it was coated in something orange looking. Their food presentation leaves something to be desired.. 

The food appears to be commercially prepared and brought in. If that is not the case then they need to fire the entire kitchen staff and hire new people. I have had better food at truck stops.

We were told they got rid of their bakers and it shows in that the pies looked and tasted like they were commercially made, not home made. There was not a piece of cake to be had. We did not find any rolls, cornbread or biscuits. 

We were discussing their food with some other diners and they were also irritated that breakfast is not longer served during the day. Save your money and go to Denny's or Big Boys.

innokin iclear 30B Cartomizer Review——Features on Long wicking threads

A Review of innokin iclear 30B cartomizer

Product Description:   

Authentic innokin iclear 30B cartomizer with dual coil Pyrex  tube

Innokin iclear 30B cartomizer Features:
1. Outstanding performance
2. throat hit Solid construction with no leaking
3. changeable double coils
4. 3.0 ml capacity
5. Long wicking threads
6. 2.1 ohm
7.Fit ego/510 thread battery
8. Replaceable coil heads available
Innokin iclear 30B cartomizer Premeter:
1.Capacity: 30ml
2.Length: 79mm
3.Diameter: 19mm
4.Atomizer Resistance: 2.1ohm
5.Tube: Pyrex tube
6.Bottom dual coil( 2.1ohm): Same to iclear X.I heat coil
7.Weight: 130g/pc
Innokin iclear 30B cartomizer Pictures:

Outstanding performance

no leaking

Long wicking threads